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An examination of the recent election campaign from a single Bismarck quote
Published on November 1, 2004 By historyishere In Politics

"A man never lies so much as after a hunt, during a war or before an election."
-Otto Von Bismarck

With the election day voting just mere hours from starting, it started me thinking about those very words uttered by Chancellor Otto von Bismarck in the late 19th century, and look in retrospect at the actions of both Kerry and Bush in this campaign and in their careers and private lives. 

So let's start with the hunt. 

Now, it would be easy to talk about George W. Bush's relationship with the outdoor lifestyle... I mean, as President he appeared on an Outdoor Life Network fishing show in April. Of course, he appeared on the show well after he had all but given up on another hunt... the hunt for Osama Bin Laden, a prey he had vowed to capture in less than a year or two. Contrast that with John Kerry's experiences with the hunt... the hunt for a consistent message or position and the hunt for any form of camera-likable quality. Then there was his little foray into "real" hunting, which, let's be honest, was a little bit more.... opportunistic, but of course we all knew that Kerry has a penchant for creating a photo-op, even if he comes out looking a little silly. 

Of course, both Kerry and Bush have come out of the wilderness and into this election empty-handed in this regard, exaggerating how well they've done. 

Then there is war.... which has had a number of dubious allegations on both sides. Of course, one candidates lies are mostly in the distant past (aside from claiming to vote for and against the same thing), while the others lies are much, much more recent (aside from allegations made against his character in the past), but both have lied before, after and during at least one war. 

And then there is the election... and where to begin with the lies, because anything I say would be the tip of the iceberg. Both used negative campaign techniques and deliberate deceptions, both in their official ads and statements, which should come as no surprise to anyone really. And through both major parties back channels, there has been implicit support for the work of the 527 groups... though the Republicans and the Democrats would vehemently deny that, but deep down, we all know its the truth. It has been a brutal, divisive campaign, filled with false scandals based on the past, mistaken and misleading information and more mud to sling than the entire Western Front in WW I could ever provide. If we believed all the statements and innuendos flying around, we would have to conclude as rational human beings that both of the men running for the Presidency not only shouldn't be elected, but that they are the most horrible political figures in the history of the country.... the evil neoconservative warmongering moronic cowboy vs. the evil effete ultraliberal flip-flopping overly-intellectual aristocrat... which is a no win situation. This campaign was so dirty, I think it will take at least 2-3 more elections just to get rid of some of the aftertaste. 

And after all these thoughts, I wonder if the Machiavellian Bismarck knew how the democratic world was going to progress... but I have my doubts about that. After all, he was also the man who said: When you want to fool the world, tell the truth, which contradicts this whole premise of this article.


Comments
on Nov 02, 2004
Speaking of Bismarck and Bush:

What Napoleon and Bismarck Teach Us About Preventive War

After Tomorrow/Today, I might not be able to put that link up
on Nov 02, 2004
Oh yeah, referencing the Cato Institute, is somebody being influenced by the ideals of the Libertarians?

mmm I could do with a Bismarck right now, yummy!!

Doughnut Plinko!!
on Nov 02, 2004
You know how there are people who are Cafeteria Catholics? Well, I am a Cafeteria Liberal.... I choose interesting ideas from all the trays.

Seriously though... Bismarck... one of the most interesting figures in European history.... I guess that's why I decided he would be a great presidential candidate for my Ideal Candidate... and didn't you go with with a Freud/Nobel ticket?



on Nov 02, 2004
Right, because the world needs a good Psychologist!!
on Nov 02, 2004
Right, because the world needs a good Psychologist!!


Of course, he'd just get us to all blame it on the biggest father out there....
on Nov 02, 2004
Oh yeah, referencing the Cato Institute, is somebody being influenced by the ideals of the Libertarians?


If I had wanted to really burn Bush from the words of Bismarck, I probably would have used the following quote.

"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America."
on Nov 02, 2004
"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America."




Speaking of that, I think Darwin would consider the United States the poster child of the Anti-Darwin Movement.

on Nov 02, 2004
No, I think it would prove that de-evolution was possible....

I mean, going from Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln on one side and FDR on the other to Bush and Kerry... well, what would you call that?
on Nov 02, 2004


I am talking about the laws made to protect people from evolution and the process of natural selection, but your reference is just as good!!

Great Theodore Roosevelt's Ghost!! Its the skeleton of George Washingon!!

Paranormal Plinko!!
on Nov 02, 2004
Well, no matter how safe things are, people will find ways to kill themselves in stupid ways.....