Michael Moore to film sequel to Fahrenheit 9/11

You mean there is more?

Published on November 12, 2004 By historyishere In Politics

Michael Moore has confirmed he is working on a sequel to F 9/11 called F 9/11 1/2 with the backing of Harvey Weinstein which will be ready in 2-3 years, which is going to be largely the same targets as the original film.

Moore's rationale, in his own words:

We want to get cameras rolling now and have it ready in two, three years. We want to document it. Fifty-one per cent of the American people lacked information (in this election) and we want to educate and enlighten them. They weren't told the truth. We're communicators and it's up to us to start doing it now. The official mourning period is over today and there is a silver lining - George W. Bush is prohibited by law from running (for presidency) again.

A good move or a bad one, you decide.

Comments (Page 6)

jeblackstar

on Nov 16, 2004

No way do I teach political science, I teach an honorable and respectable field like History. Besides, as a party which is proud to be rather unorganized, I think it's clear that we very rarely endorse something with a unified vote. Anyway, even if, and this was my underlying point, even if Daschle and others supported it, they were clearly rejected by the people. Since your comment was designed to show that because the party leadership supported something, therefore the rest of the party must also support it. That's what I had a problem with, and still do.

Cheers

Chemicalkinetics

on Nov 16, 2004

Anyway, even if, and this was my underlying point, even if Daschle and others supported it, they were clearly rejected by the people. Since your comment was designed to show that because the party leadership supported something, therefore the rest of the party must also support it. That's what I had a problem with, and still do.

This will be my last reply and I think I was abit too taken by the response, and I would like to apologize for some of my behavior. Although most of the facts I pointed to you are correct, I could have been much nicer. Anyway, first, I do think Daschle was rejected by his state, but that is not neccessary because he was outcasted by Democrats through anti-Moore feeling. Would you say Kerry was outcasted by Democrats because he also lost his election bid? He didn't attend the film. Nancy Pelosi also attened the film, she will not be rejected by California Democrats, right? So, Daschle may have lost because of the film or may have nothing to do with it. The Democratic Party did suffered from getting to close to Moore, but I don't think that is some anti-Moore feeling from the Democrats, rather anti-Moore feeling from the Republicans. Just look at the exit poll. There is 8% voter turnout from the Democrat Kerry supporter this year compared to 4 years ago. While the Republicans got 18% more turnout. Democrats are "turned off" this year compare to 4 years ago. They just wasn't "turned on" as much as the Republicans did.
I never and I mean never said the rest of the Democrat Party supports or rejects the film. I was not sure. If I have to guess, they supported the film early on, but not now, based on some polls I read and interpreted. However, if you would go back and really read my post number 38, 41 and 48(something like that), I have never said the Democrat voters supported the film. I said the Democratic Establishment and the Democratic politicans endorsed the film. I don't know how can I be any more specific. In fact, I took great pain to make sure I don't shorten it to just Democrats. I have been very consistent throughout. You, however, have jump all over the map from the Democratic party didn't endorse Moore to the estabishment didn't endorse Moore, now back to average joe Democrats didn't endorse Moore.

"Since your comment was designed to show that because the party leadership supported something, therefore the rest of the party must also support it"
I challenge you to quote me from my previous posts.

Best

jeblackstar

on Nov 16, 2004

It would take too long to go back through every post and put down everything you said which proves that point, but allow me to summarize. Many times you used the words Democrats, Democratic Establishment, and Democratic leadership synonymously, they are not.

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Chemicalkinetics

on Nov 16, 2004

No it would not. I read all of the post 38, 41, and 48. I clearly didn't confuse them. The word Democrats can mean eitehr Democratic voters or Democratic Establishment, and I was nice enough to spell out when I can. Haven't you heard of the phases like "The Democrats signed the No Child Left Behind Act."? The word Democrats there certainly are not talking about you. If you want to make a personal accusation, I like you to point out. I was nice enough early to provide which my source for my accusation. You should do the same, especially you making a personal accusation and that you know exactly where to look at too.

You, my friend, are the one who synonymously used all three terms and confused the hell out of me. Let me quote you:

Post 70:
"You are not correct, the three people who were mentioned in your post, and the article, are not, or will not be soon, affiliated with the leadership of the Democratic Party."
Here you clearly didn't know Tom Daschle and Nancy Pelosci are affliliated with the leadership of the Democratic Party. What would you call the Democratic leaders in the senate and the house? If they are not considered as "leadership of Democratic Party", who is?

Post 75:
"Did the establishment endorse his film? No,"
What do you think "establishment" means? Thank you for lecturing me on the difference between those three words when you didn't even seem to know what Democratic Estabishment mean in the previous post.

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Chemicalkinetics

on Nov 16, 2004

I didn't want to write anymore until you make personal accusation upon me... of how I mislead people.

This is your first response to my first post here. Honesty, who is confused?

Reply #40 By: jeblackstar - 11/13/2004 2:59:50 PM

Nah. The Michael Moore factor is more than just Michael Moore himself. It is the fact that many Democrat establishment actually embrace Michael Moore. Many Democrat politicans attended Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 premier. Daschle allegedly delayed his Senate vote to attend this film. Remember, Moore was invited to the Democratic National Convention to sit next to President Jimmy Carter (not everyone get to sit next to Carter, you know). The Democrat endorsed and promoted Mr. Moore. So, for all democrats out there who believed the Democratic Party has nothing to do with Moore, think again.

The missing factor is not the Right lacks extreme liars, rather the repubican establishment do not embraces and endorses those extremists.

I'm sorry, but everything in your post, with the exception of Michael Moore being at the convention, I do not agree with, nor do I believe your assertions. I would ask that you cite something saying Daschle delayed his floor vote, I would ask for a cite saying that "many democrat politicians" attended the premier, with their names. I would also point out that Ann Coulter is just as "mean" as Moore is, if not more so, and she's accepted and embraced by "the republican establishment", probably in much the same way that Michael Moore is embraced by the democrats.

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jeblackstar

on Nov 17, 2004

I'm going to say we disagree on this one and leave it at that, it's taking too much energy to keep up the arguement.

Cheers

Chemicalkinetics

on Nov 17, 2004

I wanted to end. In fact, twice. Until you started to accused me of something you did. You accused me of not understanding and distinguish my words and misleading others. I think anyone read the posts know who is person which are confused with words.

jeblackstar

on Nov 17, 2004

Indeed!

Are you now doing this to get the last word?

Cheers

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