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Fear of FCC fines making tonight less than memorable for 1/3 of the country.
Published on November 11, 2004 By historyishere In Current Events
Because of the fear of large fines, almost 1/3 of the United States will not have the choice to watch a film on network television which is much in keeping with the spirit of this day, instead getting a rerun of an interview with Pvt. Jessica Lynch, the movie Coming to America or episodes or the TV movie "Return to Mayberry", and there is nothing that says Veteran's Day more than an Andy Griffith Show reunion!

ABC aired Saving Private Ryan uncut in 2001 and 2002 -- both times on Veterans' Day, as is this year's showing -- without incurring any FCC action. But after Nipplegate, a growing number of affiliates are now afraid that showing the film would result in heavy fines. In previous years, there have been precedents set for showing films like SPR uncut on network TV, like the ruling that the showing of Schindler's List uncut was not an indecent, despite what U.S. Senator felt at the time.

Raymond H. Cole, the president of WOI-TVin Des Moines(along with stations in Sioux City and Lincoln, Nebraska) said this about the issue. "The inconsistent manner in which the FCC is choosing to apply [indecency] rules puts TV stations like ours in a most difficult position. As this relates to 'Saving Private Ryan,' our concern centers on whether the FCC would consider the context in which the intense adult language and graphic battleground violence is presented in the movie. ... With the current FCC, we just don't know." And I can sort of see where he is coming from, because yes, the fines the FCC has given out as of late have been very, very heavy. The FCC will not tell broadcasters who query them if in fact they are risking a fine either, so these programmers are being put in a difficult situation, so the basic message is... you are putting your station's livelihood in your hands if you show this movie and we get finable complaints(this despite the two previous showings resulting in no action)... while groups who traditionally file such complaints, such as the Parents Television Council, are voicing support for the uncut movie being shown...

When it was released, Saving Private Ryan was praised by many groups of WWII Veterans for showing a very realistic version of the D-Day landing and giving added depth to the nature of war in that theatre. Is it a tough movie to watch? At times yes... but in remembrance of those who gave their lives to liberate Western Europe from tyranny, and to keep the sacrifices of those who are currently fighting in mind, is it really indecent to show this movie on primetime television? And if you aren't going to show this movie, shouldn't they at least show another movie that has the same theme to it that might be safer for them... like the Longest Day?

The markets that will not be showing this movie tonight at the moment I am writing this.... more may soon follow:

Detroit (WXYZ)
Phoenix (KNXV)
Cleveland (WEWS)
Cincinnati (WCPO)
Tampa-St. Petersburg, Fla. (WFTS)
Dallas/Fort Worth (WFAA)
Hampton/Norfolk, Va. (WVEC)
Louisville, Ky. (WHAS)
Austin, Texas (KVUE)
Des Moines, Iowa (WOI)
Sioux City, Iowa (KCAU)
Lincoln, Neb. (KLKN and KHGI)
Atlanta (WSOC)
Orlando (WFTV)
Manchester, N.H. (WMUR)
Milwaukee (WISN)
New Orleans (WGNO)
Richmond VA (WRIC)

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on Nov 11, 2004
Just out of curiosity, is there any specific parent company that is pulling it from all these stations (like the Nightline report) or is it simply local stations decisions?

BTW - I'm sure Colin Powell's son was eminently qualified to run the FCC - NOT !!!!
on Nov 11, 2004
Add Richmond! Damn, and I didnt even see the stupid nipple! I was on the potty!



What is are the call letters, and I will add it to the list?

WRIC.  channel 8. 

I have seen Saving Private Ryan, and it is graphic (visual wise).  I guess we need some attentive parents?

But I still missed that Nipple scene Kingbee!  I was wearing glasses then as well, but they dont see through walls! (Got my lasik 3 months before the king!)

on Nov 11, 2004
So in Detroit where the 11 P.M. news features stories more violent than most of the battles in World War II, we can't show movies memorializing the sacrifice of the "greatest generation"? I say censor the news and show the movie!


I think the fact that they show things like Extreme Makeover before ten in a lot of these markets(with bloody surgery) without blinking an eye is a bit freaky too.

Just out of curiosity, is there any specific parent company that is pulling it from all these stations (like the Nightline report) or is it simply local stations decisions?


Its a lot of groups pulling the programming... Scripts Howard and Cox are the only names I remember at the moment though, but it was around 6-7 as I remember.

I have seen Saving Private Ryan, and it is graphic (visual wise). I guess we need some attentive parents?


I think that is part of what Veteran's Day should be too... that it gives parents and grandparents a time to talk about war and the sacrifices therein.
on Nov 11, 2004

WOW!  You are quick!  Thanks for the listing.

As for talking, yes they should.  But I will not let my under 10 year olds see it (oh, wait!  My youngest is 12!).

Ok, but you get the point.

on Nov 11, 2004
It is a very intense movie indeed.... but at the same time, the violence in it isn't for fun... there aren't clever catchphrases... its the brutality of war in a historical perspective.... but it is still not for kids, I agree.

I think that you as a parent are making a good decision.
on Nov 11, 2004
WISN 12 Milwaukee Instead we get Far and Away with Tom Cruise...what an insult. I think I'll boycott them and watch the DVD.
on Nov 11, 2004
The following is a statement from Young Broadcasting president Deborah McDermott(ABC stations in Albany, NY and Adams, MA):

Our ABC affiliated stations have, with reluctance, elected not to broadcast the highly acclaimed movie "Saving Private Ryan" in response to new and troubling legal standards from the Federal Communications Commission governing the kind of program content that may be broadcast prior to 10:00 p.m.

The broadcast of this movie on Veterans' Day would have served as a fitting tribute to the brave men and women in uniform who in the past and to this very day serve our nation with honor and distinction.

This has been a difficult and agonizing decision for us. However, we have a responsibility to operate in accord with the law, and until the FCC or the courts clarify what the broadcast legal standards are for programs of this type, we will continue to be confronted with these difficult choices.

We encourage our viewers to share their thoughts with us on all of our program decisions. We value viewer input and will, consistent with our legal responsibilities, continue to be responsive to it.
on Nov 11, 2004
It was broadcasted on Long Island
on Nov 11, 2004
How disappointing to hear that the ABC's affliates decided not to show it. I wonder how long the fallout is going to last? Nipplegate is like forgotten and already become pop culture history.

I think the FCC has taken it too far by not being clear with the networks when they ask and fining them if they end up showing something that they may get some complaints. People always complain and you can't please everyone.
on Nov 11, 2004
See, I wish past precendence was enough....
on Nov 12, 2004
I saw it Tonight...And although the violence is graphic and makes me flinch, and the language consists of swearing every ten minutes...I was Moved...just moved to tears remembering what those men did for us back then...My grandfather included....It also made me think of the men serving now that are dying in battles abroad as we Write...It's a movie worth watching.
on Nov 12, 2004
I saw it Tonight...And although the violence is graphic and makes me flinch, and the language consists of swearing every ten minutes...I was Moved...just moved to tears remembering what those men did for us back then...My grandfather included....It also made me think of the men serving now that are dying in battles abroad as we Write...It's a movie worth watching.


Truer words were never spoken/written....
on Nov 12, 2004
Did they ultimately get fined or did the FCC back off because of public outrage at their insanity?
on Nov 12, 2004
We won't know if they got fined until all the complaints come in.

Someone at the Matrix Forums indicated that at WCHS-Charleston-Huntington WV instead of showing SPR... they showed Die Hard instead. That seems appropriate, doesn't it.
on Nov 13, 2004
The final count was 66 affiliates that didn't show it. Even with that many not being able to see it it easily beat all the other shows that night.
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